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Old Jun 11, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12   #1
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Okay so im playing EoTN and those Destroyers are hard as crap becuse they have high armor versus Fire Damage so any help with a Water Build would be very Helpful thanks.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47   #2
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To be honest I hate water magic, I would just suggest bringing Winter. Air magic is also good against them, as they have no healing other than Inner Fire and it can crack their armor.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47   #3
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[maelstrom][shatterstone][glowing ice][blurred vision][water attunement][no skill][no skill][no skill]

Can use Steam + Glyph of Immolation for an anti-melee too.

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Old Jun 11, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53   #4
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just run B surge.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55   #5
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Thats Good Tyla thanks and that is true Koricen but they are weaker against Water more than air.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 07:04 PM // 19:04   #6
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Air magic has natural armor penetration, so throw that with Winter and you've got some strong spells. It also has good blinding spells to counter the warriors and rangers.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 07:15 PM // 19:15   #7
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[Winter] is insanely awesome for any Ele to be around against Destroyers, and if you do it that way the armor penetration of Air Magic is the correct way to go.

That said, I personally made my PvE Ele as a Water simply because nobody else ever has in the history of GW seemingly; here's what he runs with usually:

[Water Attunement][Maelstrom][Shatterstone][Glowing Ice][Vapor Blade][Glyph of Immolation][Steam][Frozen Burst]

I think Tyla's pretty much got it figured out.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17   #8
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i like water trident more tho
good for anti melee
wham and he's down
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57   #9
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Ok thanks guys ill use Winter that way i can still use my Fire spells.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43   #10
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Lol If you wanna kill destroyers, just max out Smiting Prayers, and slap on [Scourge Healing]

They put on their newly "buffed" Inner Fire, and rape themselves to death :P
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #11
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Lol If you wanna kill destroyers, just max out Smiting Prayers, and slap on [Scourge Healing]

They put on their newly "buffed" Inner Fire, and rape themselves to death :P
Ok triple on this post.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #12
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And yes Kyla is money. Blind, interrupt and energy gain all with one attribute. I would still add a slowdown so they can't run away from AOE as easily. I still want a water spell that STOPS a foe completely. F#$@ this slow down nonsense.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59   #13
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Heh, I just run Water out of my own personal preference, and you're not pulled back much in PvE.

There is Winter (And now it's fixed, YAY!!), and it may be a better option to go B-Surge, but as long as you understand it's still quite sub-par compared to other options, combinations and such you should be right.
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14   #14
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Would an earth ele be a good alternative?
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Old Jun 11, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41   #15
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I still want a water spell that STOPS a foe completely.
[Mind Freeze] [Icy Shackles]

I'd call those stop.
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Old Jun 12, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27   #16
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No. Not good enough. I'm very demanding. I suppose you could just go Earth Water and knock them down. Knock downs are frustrating but something about how it would look to have a foe (especially in pvp) just standing there getting beat on...

Ok enough daydreaming. YOu know I have mind freeze too. I should try using it more. My water ell has something like 92 energy so it would be pretty effective.

Oh and sorry Tyla for calling you Kyla.
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Old Jun 12, 2008, 05:30 PM // 17:30   #17
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Would an earth ele be a good alternative?
I would say yes. My experience is that earth can really be the most devasting ell type. The Ceretadons outside of Gadd's Encampment are proof of that. They are not unstoppable by any means. They are still casters and suffer from all the weakness that entails but as for damage infliction they can be very tough.
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Old Jun 12, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33   #18
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Heh, no problem.

Although Mind Freeze is actually quite bad. It's an elite snare that causes exhaustion...

Compared to other snares, of which that are not elite (Freezing Gust, Shard Storm and whatever, heck, Deep Freeze is a more aplicable option here compard to Mind Freeze), and those that are elite (Water Trident, Icy Shackles), I think it's noticable which one is better.

As for PvE enemies, they are just buffed up to the max.

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Old Jun 12, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35   #19
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Destroyers are also more resistant to earth
either roll that water build with water trident 'n stuff or get a blinding surge ele
that's the best option for it
they have alot of melee based attacks so a water ele with skills like [blurred vision] and [deep freeze] or [ice spikes] for snaring melee'ers can really make a difference
either get secondary proff Mo for a hard res or go Me for [auspicious incantation] + [deep freeze] for a big win
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Old Jun 12, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36   #20
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a good Air build with Winter will work nicely against Destroyers.
something along the lines of
[skill]invoke lightning[/skill][skill]chain lightning[/skill][skill]lightning orb[/skill] and stuff
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